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38. Crucifixion Fact or Fiction (Debate)

by IPCI



A great debate between Sheikh Ahmed Deedat and Dr. Robert Douglas who has PhD in Religion, the debate took place at the University of Kansas on 16th November 1986. recommended ... ( TRUTHWAY TV ) http://www.truthway.tv


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Reviewer: iTargum - - June 26, 2010
Subject: One of the greatest debates
This debate is one of my favorite debates
Reviewer: TruthWay - - August 23, 2007
Subject: Claeyborn is Boasting of false information
Claeyborn has said: "The historian named Josephus even mentions the crucifixion of Jesus. You guys should take back your big eraser, because you can't erase history."

Just for your information, Josephus has never mentioned Jesus in his books, he has never mentioned that Jesus has exist rather than his crucifixion ...

and about the passage in Josephus book that you claim he mentioned Jesus and crucifixion, it's a latter addition in the 13th century by your rightous priests.

If you take a look at the passage you boast of "About this time lived Jesus, a man full of wisdom, if indeed one may call Him a man. For He was the doer of incredible things, and the teacher of such as gladly received the truth. He thus attracted to Himself many Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ. On the accusation of the leading men of our people, Pilate condemned Him to death upon the cross; nevertheless those who had previously loved Him still remained faithful to Him. For on the third day He again appeared to them living, just as, in addition to a thousand other marvellous things, prophets sent by God had foretold. And to the present day the race of those who call themselves Christians after Him has not ceased."

BUT how come Josephus believes that Jesus was the Christ as what written in the passage?!?!?!?!?!

meanwhile St Origen recorded that Josephus did not believe Jesus was the Christ [Origin Commentary on Matthew 10.17; Against Celsus 1.47]

THIS SHOWS THAT THIS PASSAGE IS NOT AUTHENTIC.

If Josephus really written this passage, he should be christian by admitting that Jesus is the Christ, which would never come out of his mouth.
Reviewer: Claeyborn - - April 23, 2007
Subject: Of course, it's a fact...
Christianity would've died the same week of the crucifixion, if Jesus wasn't crucified, and if He wasn't raised from the dead.
The resurrection turned the disciples from being scared rabbits, into the evangelists that God wanted them to be.

Do you really think, that Christians would've allowed themselves to get into the situation of torture on the cross, stoned by the people, or getting eatin by lions if they didn't have a reason for the hope that was in them?

The historian named Josephus even mentions the crucifixion of Jesus. You guys should take back your big eraser, because you can't erase history.

People have looked for the body Jesus, ever since the crucifixion, and have failed. They are still looking for it today.

Maybe, they should look for Muhammed's body... they would have better luck.
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